BETHLEHEM
AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT OCTOBER
11, 2006
2006
TAX STUDY COMMISSION
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The first meeting of the Bethlehem Area
School District Tax Study Commission was held on Wednesday, October 11, 2006,
beginning at 6:10 p.m. at the Education Center, 1516 Sycamore Street,
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. |
FIRST MEETING |
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Stanley J. Majewski, Jr., opened the
meeting and called the roll: Members present: James Disario, Lynn Glancy, Donald
Hoffman, Robert Pfenning, and Camilla Stemrich - 5. Members absent:
Donald Doland and Director Charlene Koch - 2. |
MEMBERS PRESENT |
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Others present: Dr. Joseph A. Lewis,
Bethlehem Area School District Superintendent; Stanley J. Majewski, Jr.,
Bethlehem Area School District Assistant to the Superintendent for Finance
and Administration; Jeffrey T. Tucker, Bethlehem Area School District
Solicitor, and interested citizens. |
OTHERS PRESENT |
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At this point in the meeting, the
Pledge of Allegiance was recited. |
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE |
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Mr. Majewski requested that the
audience observe a moment of silent meditation. |
SILENT MEDITATION |
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Mr. Majewski
announced that members and others present would introduce themselves. Mr. Stanley J. Majewski, Jr., stated that he has the
position of the assistant to the superintendent for finance and
administration and is also board secretary. Mr. Donald Hoffman stated that he works
for the Bethlehem Police Department as a sergeant and is supervisor of half
of the community services division.
He supervises the DARE officers and the school resource officers. He is president of the board of
trustees for Lehigh Valley Academy Regional Charter School. He commented that it is nice to be
able to do something to benefit the school district. Mr. Lynn Glancy stated he is executive
director of operations for the Springfield School District which is also
going through this process. He
does operations as well as finance for the district. He was a Bethlehem Area School
District board member for 12 years.
Mrs. Camilla Stemrich said she is a
10-year resident of Bethlehem.
She has three stepchildren who are Bethlehem Area School District
graduates. She works as a
telecommunications specialist for Comcast. Mr. Robert
Pfenning stated he has been in Bethlehem since 1969. He is a retired accountant and has
also worked for Lehigh University teaching and in the computing center. He has gotten concerned about some of
the things going on in the state such as Act 71 and Act 72. The commission is a natural extension
of that. Mr. James
Disario said he is retired from Bethlehem Steel for a number of years. He worked in marketing and, for a
period of time, in the plant. He
has lived here for over four years.
He has two children who went through BethlehemÕs school system. He is interested in our community,
the school system, and our taxes.
Mr. Majewski stated that two other
important people are attending this commission meeting. He introduced Dr. Lewis. Dr. Lewis stated he is
superintendent of schools. He
and the solicitor will not be participating in the tax study commission, but
will be present to aid the commission informationally. He extended his thanks. This is a required commission, by
law. Many districts were unable
to fill the seats, not having interested community people. Mr.
Jeffrey Tucker explained that his law firm is solicitor to the school
district. He has been asked to
attend, at least the first meeting.
The solicitor is not part of the commission but is a resource to
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INTRODUC-TIONS |
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Mr. Majewski offered courtesy of the
floor to visitors. The following persons addressed the Tax Study Commission: 1. Bill Scheirer, 1890 Eaton Avenue,
Bethlehem, said he noticed that a customary provision is missing from the
bylaws presented in the meeting agenda.
Usually at the end of bylaws it says that in all other matters Roberts
Rules of Order will prevail. |
COURTESY OF THE FLOOR
TO VISITORS |
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Dr. Lewis commented to the commission
that two board members, Vice President Diane Rowe and Director Judy Dexter, are
present, strictly as observers. He
also suggested that Mr. McKeon introduce himself.
Mr. Gene
McKeon stated that he was an applicant for the commission and is an interested
supporter.
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Mr. Majewski introduced the topic of
electing a chairperson. Mr. Pfenning volunteered for the
position. There were no other
nominees. |
CHAIRPERSON |
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The question was called
on the election of Robert Pfenning as chairperson and roll call was as
follows: Yea, Mr. Disario, Mr.
Glancy, Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Pfenning, and Mrs. Stemrich - 5. Motion passed 5 - 0. |
ROLL CALL ELECT R. PFENNING AS CHAIRPERSON |
Mr.
Majewski congratulated Mr. Pfenning.
Mr. Pfenning presided over the remainder of the meeting.
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Mr. Pfenning announced that the next
item of business is the adoption of a charter as distributed to the commission
members. Mr. Disario had a question regarding
the timing. The charter says the
Commission is to complete its recommendation within 90 days of their
appointment, which he believes was September 25. On the following page it says the Commission is to report
out on December 14. Mr. Majewski explained that the board
had appointed seven members of the Commission initially at the special board
meeting on September 11. Their
commission was to take effect September 14. It was regrettable that one of the members had to withdraw
her name. Mr. Disario was then
recommended for that position and retroactively appointed. The Commission has been in place
effective September 14 and will have 90 days to take action, until December
13. The Commission will be in
existence either until December 13 or until a recommendation is made to the
Board of School Directors. |
CHARTER |
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Mrs. Stemrich made a
motion to adopt the charter as presented. Mr. Hoffman seconded the motion. The question was called and roll call was as follows: Yea,
Mr. Disario, Mr. Glancy, Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Pfenning, and Mrs. Stemrich -
5. Motion passed 5 - 0. |
ROLL CALL ADOPT CHARTER |
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Mr. Pfenning asked if anyone had
comments or amendments as proposed by Mr. Scheirer of having the
RobertÕs Rules of Order Newly Revised be the final arbiter of instances not
covered otherwise. Mr.
Tucker said that under the law that created the Commission, the legislature
gave absolutely no guidance upon how these meetings are to be run. It only required that the Commission
hold one public hearing and that a recommendation be made no later than
December 13. There is a strong
suggestion that the Commission is subject to the Sunshine Law, so it must be
advertised like any other governmental meeting. Having said that, the Commission is free to have whatever
rules, if any, it wishes to have.
If the Commission wants to have RobertÕs Rules, that is fine. There are succeeding editions of
RobertÕs Rules. He suggested
that if members have never seen RobertÕs Rules, he doesnÕt know that they
would want to get into trying to follow every aspect of it. He cautioned that, if the Commission
adopts RobertÕs Rules of Order, it should know what it is adopting. It is incredibly detailed in terms of
procedures. He suggested that
the CommissionÕs function is a lot simpler than that and is better served by
focusing on its task than worrying about parliamentary procedures. In the end there is only one act the
Commission must take. That is
the recommendation to be made to the school board. Mr. Tucker said he is not sure the Commission really wants
to impose RobertÕs Rules of Order on itself. Mr.
Glancy moved that the Commission adopt the bylaws as presented. Mrs. Stemrich seconded the
motion. Mr.
Tucker explained that the Bylaws and the Charter were prepared by his office
which they borrowed from other sources.
Again, Act One does not require any of this. As a governmental body, Mr. Tucker believes the Commission
should have some procedures. The
school board is not required to have a motion by the School Code or to follow
any parliamentary procedures.
All they need to do is vote on their actions. The Commission doesnÕt have to have
bylaws, but it has been suggested, mainly through PSBA and attorneys who do
this a lot, to have some orderly process. |
BYLAWS |
Dr. Lewis announced that |
FEDERAL PROGRAMS
UPDATE |
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The question of adopting
the Bylaws was called and roll call was as follows: Yea, Mr. Disario, Mr.
Glancy, Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Pfenning, and Mrs. Stemrich - 5. Motion passed 5 - 0. |
ROLL CALL ADOPT BYLAWS |
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Mrs. Stemrich made a
motion to adopt the Operating Procedures as presented. Mr. Hoffman seconded the motion. The question was called and roll call
was as follows: Yea, Mr. Disario, Mr. Glancy, Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Pfenning, and
Mrs. Stemrich - 5. Motion passed
5 - 0. |
ROLL CALL ADOPT OPERATING PROCEDURES |
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Mr. Pfenning asked for
nominations and/or volunteers for the position of vice chairperson. Mr. Disario nominated Camilla
Stemrich for vice chairperson of the Commission. The question was called and roll call
was as follows: Yea, Mr. Disario, Mr. Glancy, Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Pfenning, and
Mrs. Stemrich - 5. Motion passed
5 - 0. Mr. Pfenning remarked
that according to what the Commission has adopted the secretary need not be a
member of the Commission. Mr. Majewski stated that
is his understanding. Mr. Pfenning asked if
school district administration is willing to supply a secretary, assuming the
Commission does not wish to elect one.
Mr. Majewski stated that
he will be glad to perform that function. Mr. Pfenning asked for
nominations for the position of secretary. None were offered. Mrs. Stemrich made a
motion to elect the assistant to the superintendent for finance and
administration to the position of secretary to the Tax Study Commission. Mr. Glancy seconded the motion. The
question was called and roll call was as follows: Yea, Mr. Disario, Mr.
Glancy, Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Pfenning, and Mrs. Stemrich - 5. Motion passed 5 - 0. |
ELECTION OF OFFICERS C. STEMRICH, VICE CHAIR S. MAJEWSKI, SECRETARY |
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Dr. Lewis stated that he wanted to
share with the Commission that Act 1 is a complex act that has been
oversimplified by many in the media with its intent to take a look at how a
redistribution of tax impact might occur should a school district via its
board of school directors choose to shift a certain amount of revenue from
its property tax assessment on its population to either an earned income or a
personal income tax. Act 1 does
not create any new money. It
does provide for a distribution of a portion of gaming revenue, should that
occur, explicitly for the purpose of offsetting property tax. There is some inherent assumption in
the act that there would be some reduction of property tax minimally driven
by the revenues the district might receive based on the revenues from
gaming. There has also been much
discussion in the field about this being a very perfunctory committee, that
the legislature created this committee as a ruse, as an attempt to validate
its efforts. Dr. Lewis stressed
that he does not believe that to be so.
He believes that this committee is charged with examining everything
from revenue sources to potential revenues, from what a shift might look
like, who would be impacted by a shift of taxes, if it would be more
regressive or progressive in nature and, therefore, make a recommendation by
mid December to the Board of School Directors. Within the act, it explicitly states that the Board of
School Directors must act on the CommissionÕs recommendation. The board must either accept it or
reject it. They may reject it
and alter the content in terms of their next step. Their next step is that they must establish a front-end
referendum that becomes mandatory in nature. As Mr. Tucker pointed out, there is a lot of ambiguity in
the law. It does not specify how
much of a shift must be suggested, if any shift must be suggested, or just a
notion of a shift be presented in that referendum question. There are some issues surrounding
what that question will look like.
Dr. Lewis said that, hopefully, administration will be able to learn
from the Commission, as well, as it continues the investigation into Act 1
and attends sessions on Act 1.
Our solicitor has also been actively researching. The front-end referendum is required,
in which case the public will vote on the question which is asked, which at
this point is unclear. What is
clear is that the district must have a referendum question on the
ballot. Dr. Lewis stated that
the administration is present to help the Commission, available to provide
the Commission with any and all information. Mr. Majewski has been working very diligently on
collecting all of the information relative to the revenue data that will
assist the Commission. Dr. Lewis
thanked the Commission members for giving their time. Mrs. Stemrich asked what will happen if
voters say no. Dr. Lewis
replied that nothing will happen.
A district might say that it is fine with its current property tax
situation and does not wish to alter it. Act 72 gave the district the option that the board could
say yea or nay. There would be
some property tax reduction anticipated from the gaming base which would just
be a calculation. Mrs. Stemrich asked when that would
start. Dr. Lewis replied that he canÕt answer
that. He can only say that they
got slot machines in Wilkes Barre as of mid November. He has no idea what their expectation
is. Mr. Disario asked Dr. Lewis if this is
a Òonce and doneÓ process or an annual event. Dr. Lewis stated that the Commission is
Òonce and done.Ó He stated to
Mr. Tucker that he believes the referendum can be called at any time. Mr. Tucker stated that he thinks the
referendum is to be placed on the ballot in May at the time of the primary
election. Dr. Lewis said that a new board can put
another referendum out or the same board can put another referendum out. Mrs. Stemrich asked if that requires
the front-end referendum to reference a certain percentage of both earned income
tax (EIT) or personal income tax (PIT). Dr. Lewis
replied that the shift in taxes requires a front-end referendum involving
either EIT or PIT. You canÕt
assume that the board will agree with the CommissionÕs recommendation. It may approve something different
for the referendum vote. Mrs. Stemrich questioned that the board
still needs to do a front-end referendum if it raises property taxes above a
certain percent. Dr. Lewis and Mr. Majewski both replied
that that is a back-end referendum.
Dr. Lewis stated that happens at the end of the budget process. This happened at the front end of the
budget. He told her that she is
correct that it is an index. If
you are exceeding an index it is calculated on a host of economic factors
from the state average minimum wage, the educational cost index. Now, our index stands at 4.1
percent. We will be ok if our
history holds out. Mr. Pfenning said that in the letter
from Zahorchak it states ÒSchool boards will be required to seek voter
approval for future tax increases.Ó
That is at the end, after the board imposes it. Then, the following year, as the
board prepares the budget, if he understands it correctly. Dr. Lewis replied that it is this
year. If the district goes above
the index, it would be required to run a referendum question in May. Mr. Tucker explained that the
referendum the Commission is dealing with is, ÒWhat is the source of
revenue?Ó The other referendum
is how the revenue is spent, the size of the budget. One is the revenue side. The other is the expense side, two
referendums. Mrs. Stemich stated another issue she
remembers of Act 72 was who was to collect the tax – the PIT or
EIT. Dr. Lewis replied that the collector
would be the district or the districtÕs delegated tax collector. Mr. Majewski added that the law
requires a shift or a consideration of a shift from real estate taxes to
income taxes and identifies earned income tax and personal income tax. At the next meeting he will go into
more detail of the differences between the two. The option of a personal income tax shift is not available
as yet. It requires the
Department of Revenue to change some of their collection regulations. He knows that they have been
drafted. They have not been
acted upon. Until they have been
acted upon, personal income tax assessment and collection by a local school
district is not an option. He
does not know when or if they will take action on some of those regulations. He will make the Commission aware of
any changes within its 90-day process.
Mr. Disario asked, since the personal
income tax is not an option to use, if it is possible that the Commission
might also make other recommendations that are not currently part of the law
that might help the districtÕs funding situation. Mr. Majewski replied that the existence
of the Commission and its purpose is to decide if there will be a shift from
real estate taxes to an end income tax.
Personal income tax is an option, just not one that can be implemented
right now. Mr. Tucker stated that the law itself
authorizes a school board to either adopt for the first time, if it doesnÕt
have it already, or to increase its earned income tax. If it already had an EIT, the
district can go to PIT if the collection law is changed. The CommissionÕs job is to recommend
to the board whether it adopt one of those taxes. They can have the power to increase the PIT for an
EIT. It now gives them that authority. The CommissionÕs job is to tell the
district if it thinks it should do one or the other or stand pat with the
existing real estate taxes, earned income taxes, and other taxes that are
currently used. That is the
guidance that the law is looking for the Commission to give to the school board. Mr. Majewski told the Commission that
the decision it is making, for the most part, if it recommends raising an
income tax, it does not provide additional funding for the school
district. It will be a shift to
reduce dollar per dollar real estate taxes. Mr. Tucker stated that, to his knowledge,
the Commission is a unique entity in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. To his knowledge, this has never
existed before. The legislature
created this Commission as new entity.
The Commission is, in fact, part of the state government. It is a governmental body. Many districts have citizen
committees, task forces. They
are a creation of their school board.
The Tax Study Commission is a creation of the legislature. The Commission is part of the
legislatureÕs job, its constitutional duty to provide an education to the
students of this state. Part of
that duty is funding it. The
legislature has created the Commission to deal with that part of that
constitutional requirement that the legislature has. Although the Commission has a limited
life, it has a very important function.
In his view, the Commission members are fiduciaries. Government officials are fiduciaries
of the governmental duties that they are from. That means that the members are not present as individuals
on their own behalves, but as a group on behalf of the school district. All decisions should be driven by the
CommissionÕs fiduciary duty which is to give guidance and recommendations to
the school board on how to fund education in Bethlehem Area School
District. The Commission functions
as a body, has no power as individuals, has power as a body. The Commission is subject to the
Sunshine Act because it is a governmental body, an agency of the state, just
as the school district is an agency of the state. This is Act 1.
The legislature dedicated less than one page to the Commission and how
it should function. They did not
give much thought as to how this operates. Unfortunately, Commission members may very well have
questions because there already have been a number of questions asked across
the commonwealth that there are no answers for because the legislation didnÕt
give them. In other situations
the legislature has the luxury of amending laws and providing that guidance
later. That guidance will not be
forthcoming in less than 90 days.
Some of the answers will evolve while going through this time
period. Solicitors across the
state are attending a conference today on one part of this. Mr. Tucker commented that, as Dr. Lewis
already mentioned, there are two board members present and there may be
others. It is not the
CommissionÕs job to listen to them or what they want. It is the boardÕs job to listen to
the Commission. A commission is
a form of governmental body that is appointed by, in this case, the school
board, not elected by the public.
Mr. Tucker told the Commission members that they are public officials
and have been given great responsibility with a special, unique status for
the next several months. A
number of school districts have had problems getting people to come forward
to serve. He congratulated
Commission members for volunteering.
Mr. Pfenning stated that in procedures
there is a comment about not making individual comments or assessment about
the CommissionÕs activity. It
may be good to review how to handle comments of personal observations. Mr. Tucker replied that members can
speak individually but should remember that their power is as a body. If you want to speak officially, on
behalf of the Commission, that must be a decision of the Commission. If a member speaks individually, he
should make it clear that he is speaking on his own, so as not to have the
public think that opinion is the opinion of the Commission. There is a general operating rule
that the chairperson can, in fact, speak of his own volition but must
remember that he is functioning in that role and not as an individual. Mrs. Stemrich stated she assumes that
the Commission members are covered under the school district from a legal
perspective and a liability perspective. Mr. Tucker stated that Commission
members donÕt get their protection from the district, but get protection by
being a Commission. There is
something called the political subdivision tort claims act which is a state
law that says all government bodies are immune from lawsuit, basically. There are things they can be sued
for. All members of those bodies
and their employees, if any, are likewise immune from liability. In the very remote chance that it
would happen, members of the Commission have immunity under state law, the
same as the school district.
Because the Commission is legally separate, the school districtÕs
insurance policy would not apply.
He also does not think the Commission needs it because if something
would happen to somebody, physically in this room, that is the school
districtÕs liability and not Commission members.Õ Commission members are only responsible for the decisions
it makes. If someone wants to
sue because they think a member has done something wrong, this immunity will
protect Commission members. Mr. Majewski stated that taxes are one
of those topics that very few people are neutral about. There is no doubt that Commission
members can anticipate having some neighbors or friends approaching about
this issue because the Tax Study Commission, in this advisory role, is one of
the very first steps of creating local public awareness of the impact of a
shift in taxes to the community.
Whatever decision is made or lack of a decision, there are winners and
losers in varying degrees. If
the Commission would recommend no change, those who believe the current
system is equitable would be happy.
Those who believe the current system of taxation is inequitable would
not be. If the Commission
decides to make a recommendation to shift to a higher earned income tax and
lower real estate taxes, again, there are some clear winners and losers. The clear winners, when it comes to
an increase in earned income tax, will be senior citizens since they,
typically, do not pay earned income tax. Any reduction in the real estate taxes would all be
savings to them. It was not the
intent to have individuals in the community who are wealthy enough to be able
to live off of their interest and dividends and own a home. They, too, would be a clear winner,
because they would pay less in taxes.
Some of the losers with a shift to earned income tax would be
renters. If they have a job and
are earning income and their income taxes go up, they would pay more tax but
do not have real estate tax to offset.
Somewhere in between there will be a break-even point. When income taxes are increased and
real estate taxes are decreased, there is going to be a point where folks
will break even. Below that,
low-income folks will have savings.
Those who are making above that level will be paying more in
taxes. Personal income tax, if
the district were able to move in that direction, is somewhat more
complicated. Because personal income
taxes include interest and dividends and other unearned income plus earned
income, senior citizens may not benefit as much if they have interest and
dividends. As the Commission
goes through this process, it needs to keep in mind the decision it wants to
recommend to the school board will be including some who will benefit and
others who will not, even if the Commission decides to do nothing. There is a weight on the shoulders of
the Commission. The Commission
will consider the impact in the Bethlehem Area School District and its
community of either staying with the same type of taxation system or shifting
to another type of system. The
other concern is the impact on the school district. A number of considerations will be presented to the
Commission so that it can make a decision as to what it believes is in the
best interests of this community and its citizens. Mr. Disario commented that they are
trying to get the universe laid out.
Maybe some of these questions are looking more forward than they
should be at this time. The
information packet was very well done and gave a very nice overview. He asked if he is correct in saying
that the upper limit that this Commission can recommend on an earned income
tax is one percent. Mr. Majewski said, potentially, that is
correct. There are other factors
that may influence that decision.
Mr. Hoffman asked if there was a lower
limit. Dr. Lewis said that it could be in
increments of .1. We already
levy .5, so it could be taken to .6, .8, .9, 10. You couldnÕt take it to .75. It has to be increments of a tenth. Mr. Majewski stated that it is already
at .5. There is a one percent
earned income tax that is taken out of paychecks. That one percent is split between municipalities and the
school district. Mr. Disario said that what is called
the municipal income tax is actually a half a percent. Mr. Disario added that it is half a
percent district, half a percent municipality. The district may levy the one percent
tax. The municipality does not
levy the tax. One or the other
can have the tax or not at all.
If a municipality opts not to have EIT, the full one percent comes to
the district. That is pre Act 1. Dr. Lewis stated that Act 1 allows
another .5 to go to the school district in the event that the city is still
taking their .5. Some districts
could legally go to 1.5 if the municipality is not collecting. We are not in that situation. The total tax could be
1.5 percent maximum with a .5 going to the municipality and 1.0 going to the
school district. That is the way
the law is written. Mr. Tucker said he sees it a little bit
different. Mr. Majewski
agreed. Mr. Tucker said that you
can place a one percent on top of the .5 percent the district now receives. There is a one percent maximum. There can be a combined two percent
EIT. Mr. Majewski said there has been
discussion at the state level during which they say one percent but it has
never been clearly defined. He
believes that right now there is a preponderance of individuals believing it
is one percent in addition to what taxpayers are paying now. Until it is challenged, until the
court takes action to identify exactly what that one percent is intended to
mean, the district will be subject to interpretation and need to act upon it
in that manner. Mr. Majewski stated it is ambiguous and
they have been saying it is ambiguous.
Right now, most folks are leaning in the direction that it is an
additional one percent. Mr. Tucker said that is what they are
trying to sort out. He thinks
the secretary put it well. If
you move to increase EIT, that is the money that is used to reduce the real
estate taxes dollar per dollar.
The existing half percent that our district now collects stays as it
is now and is not used to reduce real estate taxes. Even though it would be one tax in the end, it would be in
two pieces. The piece the
Commission is to deal with is how big that piece would be and that amount
must reduce real estate taxes. Mr. Majewski commented that there are
other factors that will probably create confusion in the future. It will all become clear by the time
the Commission is done. Mr. Pfenning stated that prior to the
next meetingÕs presentation, he has some things on his mind that donÕt need
to be answered tonight, but Mr. Majewski could meld them in, when
appropriate, to the presentation.
One item missing from the fact sheet received by the Commission is the
median assessed value of a residence in our district. Mr. Majewski stated the reason it was
not included is because it is a part of a larger presentation of numbers that
will flow into the median assessed value. Mr. Pfenning said that another thing
that may or may not be germane in working numbers and looking to the future
is the impact on the revenue stream, if any, of Act 4. Mr. Majewski stated that is not part of
the discussion of the Tax Study Commission nor would it enter into any of his
presentations. It is a
completely separate consideration with the school board, not the Tax Study
Commission. Mr. Pfenning questioned the impact of a
reassessment by either one or both of the counties in which the district
exists. Mr. Majewski said that is also not part
of the discussion. Mr. Pfenning asked, since consideration
is being given to benefiting senior citizens, if anything is going to be
presented about the rebate program and the impact that has already been
achieved in lowering certain property taxes for those people. Mr. Majewski replied that it will not
be a consideration. Part of the
presentation will be the potential gaming revenue and how that may impact the
homestead/farmstead exemptions. Mr. Pfenning said that from what he has
read, if the Commission decided to recommend a PIT, that would eliminate the
.5 percent EIT currently collected.
Would it remain? Mr. Majewski said he has not seen
anything in Act 1 that would eliminate it. The current EIT assessment comes under Act 511. Nowhere in Act 1 is it seen that Act
511 would be rescinded. He
believes the assessment of the PIT would be in addition to the EIT. Dr. Lewis stated he believes that the
act calls for conversion of the EIT should the district be permitted to go to
a PIT. In other words, it
doesnÕt go away, but both forms of tax will not be levied, as stated on page
14. The .5 percent would be
converted and the PIT raised accordingly. Mr. Pfenning asked if he is correct
that if the Commission recommends to the board and the board follows through
and passes the referendum, the increased taxes will go only toward homestead
exemptions. Mr. Majewski said that is correct; it
will go only toward homestead/farmstead exemptions, except for two percent
that can be retained. Dr. Lewis commented that it is an
important point to make. If
people do not apply, they do not receive the relief. It is not automatic. It retains the Act 72 homestead provision
almost verbatim. Mr. Majewski
said that is why the Tax Study Commission right now is the first public
discussion about what is going to be accomplished. During Act 1 and Act 72 discussion, when the
homestead/farmstead mailings were sent out as required, no one saw gambling
revenue coming in for years. So,
the response was rather poor.
About 6,000 folks were approved of about 28,000 potential. The word needs to get out that this
is not Act 72. This is not maybe
you will see revenue in 2008-2009.
If a shift occurs and they do not have their homestead applications in
and approved, there are no savings for that household. Potentially, only an additional tax. Mr. Majewski commented that if the
Tax Study Commission is wondering why it exists, it is because there needs to
be public discussion, there needs to be a public presentation of information
and an awareness acquired so that when those mailings begin to go out,
shortly, individuals must respond.
If they do not, they will not be able to take advantage of any
shift. The more information that
is out for the public, the better off all will be. If nothing is done and the tax structure stays the way it
is now, there wouldnÕt be any individuals who would lose out on an
exemption. However, in May, if
the front-end referendum voters adopt to shift to income taxes, then
individuals who did not apply will lose. That information needs to get out to the public. This process will help. Mrs. Stemrich questioned that the last
round of homestead applications are now irrelevant. Mr. Majewski said that is correct. Mr. Disario
commented that he is not sure Dr. Lewis and Mr. Tucker will attend every
meeting. He referred to page six
of a handout stating that the Commission is to be evaluating if different
forms of tax would provide for natural growth that would increase classroom
resources without the need for an increase in tax rate. In other words, in looking forward,
the Commission must anticipate how earned income tax would increase, how
property values would be anticipated to increase. They may not increase at the same rate. The Commission must examine
implications on insuring that the schools have sufficient revenue. That also might take a look at a
forecast on budget. A logical
question would be, ÒWhere do we see our budgets going?Ó That is an annual process, but there
are certain factors already built in since benefits and wages are the great
preponderance of the budget. He
asked if the Commission will see that as part of a presentation. Mr. Majewski replied that part of his
presentation will be to try to go out five years in the future. His focus was going to be just on
real estate and earned income taxes.
If he can show the difference between collections under the current
system and make assumptions that the maximum increase in real estate, the
percentage tax of this year, will be the same over the next five years,
because he doesnÕt know what inflation will be, but he knows what the index
is right now. He will assume
there will be an increase and that will be it. He will compare that to a tax shift at different
levels. The Commission can then
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Mr. Pfenning
raised the topic of future meeting dates. Mr. Tucker
reminded the members that meetings must be advertised in the newspaper at
least 24 hours in advance and the newspapersÕ timelines for printing must
also be followed. Mr. Majewski
stated that because there will be so much information at the next meeting, he
would like to make sure every Commission member can be present. The presentation will be fairly
lengthy and detailed and extremely important in developing an opinion as to
the recommendation. Several
dates were suggested. None were
agreeable to all members. Mr. Majewski
suggested that he would send out a matrix of the next several weeks for
members to choose dates they are available. When returned to him, he will confirm the desired dates,
and then advertise. Mr. Pfenning stated they must try to
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Mr. Pfenning requested that since the
Commission has a very limited charge that the remarks made by the public try
to remain as close as possible to the CommissionÕs task of reviewing the
shift between real estate and income taxes. If the Commission decides to recommend a change, lots of
somebodyÕs ox will get gored by that.
He would like the Commission to get as much input from the various
oxes before the Commission makes its decision. Getting public input to the Commission may make the
boardÕs task of dealing with the CommissionÕs recommendation easier. Mr. Tucker commented that, as the
Commission may know, the law requires that the Commission hold a public
hearing. That public meeting
really is the opportunity for the public although they will be able to speak
at each meeting. He often sees
some explanation from the Commission or its advisors to the public as to what
the options are and then taking testimony from them that the Commission then
takes into account. The Act 1
creates a task force at the state level and they have a public hearing. They tell them that their function is
to solicit testimony from public and private agencies on the topic of costs
to school districts, etc. That
guidance was not given for the Tax Study Commission but the way hearings of
that nature are generally run is that it is advertised as a public hearing
with some explanation as to why they are attending, and the public speaks. Mr. Pfenning commented that, as he sees
it, there will be a big presentation at the next meeting. Probably, at the meeting after that,
the Commission should begin to see if there is any agreement among the members. Then, a public hearing is needed. Then, the final vote after the public
hearing. That all must be done
by December 13. The following person addressed the
Commission. 1. Bill Scheirer, 1890 Eaton Avenue,
Bethlehem, commented about per capita tax. It says that the Commission will study the existing taxes
levied, assessed, and collected by the district and the effect, etc. He would recommend the abolition of
the per capita tax. It is
probably one of the best examples of what is called the nuisance tax. When his mother was still alive, she
did the payroll for the Bethlehem Area School District. She worked for Jody McLernon. She recalled how Mr. McClernon used
to say that he wished he could abolish that per capita tax. It costs five dollars to collect a
ten-dollar tax. He guesses the
idea for it is that renters donÕt pay property taxes. But actually they do pay property
taxes in their rent. If property
taxes were to double, rents will go up to compensate for that. He cannot see any reason for keeping
that tax. Mr.
Scheirer stated that if the Commission recommends a shift from a property tax
to either an earned income tax or a personal income tax, the renters, in the
short run, will be losers. Even
though the landlord will be paying lower property taxes, they wonÕt see a
reduction in the rents. In the
meantime, landlords will benefit at the expense of the renters. In the longer run, compensation will
eliminate that and the renters will not be shortchanged. The bigger loses are the people who
have earned income and income from assets as opposed to those who have the
foresight to put their money into housing rather than go to Atlantic City or
whatever. It can be argued that
property tax is double taxation because when you earned the money you got
taxed, put it into property and get taxed again. Mr.
Pfenning stated that issue has occurred to him. He asked if the Commission can discuss, under the charter
and Act 1, a recommendation to the school district to change other taxes. Mr.
Tucker said that he guesses the Commission can make whatever recommendation
it wants to the board. But it is
not within the CommissionÕs purview to look at other taxes. Its purview is to look at shifting
from real estate tax to income tax.
As to the renters, actually their landlords will receive no benefit
under the tax shifting. It is
only on homeowners and farmstead.
Commercial property does not get a tax reduction in this shift. The landlords wonÕt benefit. The renters may be paying income tax
they did not have to pay before.
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The meeting adjourned at 7:27 p.m. |
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Attest,
Stanley
J. Majewski, Jr.
Tax
Study Commission Secretary
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